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Lucky escape it seems...
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Surfer!
2006-07-11 20:36:12 UTC
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It seems there is one lucky and probably very relieved glider pilot
tonight:

Http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/5167612.stm
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Peter
2006-07-11 21:11:54 UTC
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Post by Surfer!
It seems there is one lucky and probably very relieved glider pilot
Http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/5167612.stm
They will be making ELTs mandatory for gliders soon :)

Having said that, if I was flying up in such remote places I would
carry one, as I always do.
Surfer!
2006-07-12 06:47:28 UTC
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Post by Surfer!
It seems there is one lucky and probably very relieved glider pilot
Http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/5167612.stm
They will be making ELTs mandatory for gliders soon :)
I had been wondering what the aviation equivalent of an EPIRB was.

£700 for one on the new frequency with GPS, but the rescue would have
been straight to the right place if he had had one.
Post by Peter
Having said that, if I was flying up in such remote places I would
carry one, as I always do.
If it had been winter the outcome might have been very different after a
night in the open, despite his lack of injuries. Do you carry a
survival blanket as well?
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Peter
2006-07-12 07:06:58 UTC
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Post by Surfer!
Post by Peter
They will be making ELTs mandatory for gliders soon :)
I had been wondering what the aviation equivalent of an EPIRB was.
As far as I can tell, the difference is just a name. I carry a
portable Kannad one. One registers it with some place in Falmouth, UK.
Post by Surfer!
£700 for one on the new frequency with GPS, but the rescue would have
been straight to the right place if he had had one.
Yes, especially if he had GPS in it. Mine doesn't have that, but a
406MHz (which also emits on 121.50 anyway) should give them a
satellite fix to within a few miles very quickly (under an hour)
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Post by Peter
Having said that, if I was flying up in such remote places I would
carry one, as I always do.
If it had been winter the outcome might have been very different after a
night in the open, despite his lack of injuries. Do you carry a
survival blanket as well?
Believe it or not, I do carry a sleeping bag. It is a cheap
lightweight one from Millets, packed tightly in a small bag, rated to
"-20 degC" (yeah, right...) and never leaves the plane.
Surfer!
2006-07-12 07:52:38 UTC
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They will be making ELTs mandatory for gliders soon :)
I had been wondering what the aviation equivalent of an EPIRB was.
As far as I can tell, the difference is just a name. I carry a
portable Kannad one. One registers it with some place in Falmouth, UK.
The sailing ones are often designed to fit in a housing on deck & float
free if the boat capsizes - not the case for one in an aircraft!

BTW heard about an EPIRB accidentally stolen in a hold-all from a boat
somewhere in NE Scotland. It went off, and the signal was clearly
ashore. The police went along and bingo - the thief was caught!
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Post by Surfer!
£700 for one on the new frequency with GPS, but the rescue would have
been straight to the right place if he had had one.
Yes, especially if he had GPS in it. Mine doesn't have that, but a
406MHz (which also emits on 121.50 anyway) should give them a
satellite fix to within a few miles very quickly (under an hour)
And I gather the 406 ones are much less inclined to give false alerts,
so a rescue will launch when the signal arrives.

http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/406vs121.pdf
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Having said that, if I was flying up in such remote places I would
carry one, as I always do.
If it had been winter the outcome might have been very different after a
night in the open, despite his lack of injuries. Do you carry a
survival blanket as well?
Believe it or not, I do carry a sleeping bag. It is a cheap
lightweight one from Millets, packed tightly in a small bag, rated to
"-20 degC" (yeah, right...) and never leaves the plane.
A survival blanket would be a good addition for you - the sleeping bag
will saturate rapidly in rain. Also keeping a sleeping bag 'tightly
packed' isn't advised. They are best kept unpacked, hanging up in a
dark airy place - similar to a parachute room....

Not sure there is room for a sleeping bag in the average glider!
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Peter
2006-07-12 08:25:42 UTC
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And I gather the 406 ones are much less inclined to give false alerts,
so a rescue will launch when the signal arrives.
Yes; in fact the 243MHz ones (still widely sold in UK pilot shops) are
nearly useless; the monitoring network is disappearing any day now. I
have a reference to the dates somewhere...
Air Head
2006-07-12 15:00:26 UTC
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I've flown at Aboyne, it's a good wave site - but can get a bit sporting in
strong cross winds.

It has two parallel, pencil-line runways, (east west) and is surrounded by
hills. And on more than one occasion,I've seen the wind socks on either side
of the field, point in opposite directions as the wave dumps itself right in
the middle of the field. Landing's a bit of a laugh as well. Turn finals at
900 ft and try touch down on a hair-line runway 12 foot wide!

I have nothing but admiration for their pilots.

Gail
Surfer!
2006-07-12 21:08:33 UTC
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Post by Air Head
I've flown at Aboyne, it's a good wave site - but can get a bit sporting in
strong cross winds.
It has two parallel, pencil-line runways, (east west) and is surrounded by
hills. And on more than one occasion,I've seen the wind socks on either side
of the field, point in opposite directions as the wave dumps itself right in
the middle of the field. Landing's a bit of a laugh as well. Turn finals at
900 ft and try touch down on a hair-line runway 12 foot wide!
I have nothing but admiration for their pilots.
So have I - and I haven't seen it! My instructor was telling me how
narrow the strip was tonight. At Portmoak you can land in just about
any direction with plenty of field to spare, though some bits are rather
rough. So, we can usually avoid a cross-wind landing...
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